Pigtronix Infinity Looper – Review

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Pigtronix Infinity Looper Pedal Review– based on Question/Answer format so you can skip around to what you care about. Feel free to post questions or answers below the review.

Looper Category: Type 2 (category definitions)

Target Setup: Live performance (video performance if separate audio interface is purchased)

Competitive Position: Expensive compared to other type 2 loopers, but has continued to update the functionality and Pigtronix provides good customer support.

Warranty: The Infinity Looper has a standard 1 year warranty through Pigtronix. Make sure to register your product within 30 days of purchase.

  • What is the price I should expect to pay for the Pigtronix Infinity Looper and how does that compare to other loopers?
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  • What is the main function of the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • The main function is looping, and the focus is on live performance. However, there is some functionality that is highly useful for home recording, as well.

 

  • Can I record sound, continuously play a loop of that recording, and then layer additional tracks over the loop/phrase with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, with the Infinity Looper, you can do this with two separate loops. These two loops can either be played in serial or simultaneously. When played simultaneously, they can play as synchronized or completely free from each other. For synchronized, one loop is either equal to the other or a multiple of the other 2x, 3x, etc. Using the Infinity Application, or a MIDI CC, the multiplier can be set to any value from 1-127.

 

  • How long can I record with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • The Infinity Looper record time depends on the mode you are playing in. There are 50 memory slots that can store settings and the recordings that are within the two loops. The overall recording time would be roughly 2 hrs with an 8GB memory card. The manual mentions the ability to use a 16GB or 32GB card.  Also, the minimum record time is 10ms, which is improved from previous versions of the product with a 2.5 second minimum.

 

  • How many memory locations (slots) are included in the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • There are 50 locations for storing what they call a “Preset”. This includes settings and audio for loops 1 and 2, for a total of 100 slots to save in.

 

  • Using the Pigtronix Infinity Looper, can I learn by having an instrument teacher play something and then slow it down and work on matching the notes and gradually speeding up?
    • The earlier versions of the Infinity did not have tempo control. However, it was added and is called “Verispeed”. It allows you to replay loops at half-speed, quarter-speed, double speed, quadruple speed, any musical interval within an octave, or—with an expression pedal—anywhere in between. Pitch is affected by this, so double-speed (for example) also results in “up an octave”. Varispeed is achieved by changing the sample rate. Full details are in the manual.

 

  • Can I practice soloing with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, you can lay down your own rhythm track and then play over the top of it.

 

  • Can I use the Pigtronix Infinity Looper to capture quick song ideas to review later?
    • Yes, you can connect to a PC/Mac via USB to save off quick ideas. There are 50 on-board memory slots where you can save your recordings to later export. The Infinity does not function as a looper while the USB is connected, and actually boots into a USB mode.

 

  • Can I switch to a different loop/slot while performing with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • You can switch between loop 1 and loop 2 on the Infinity Looper. To switch between memory slots, hands-free, you can use a MIDI Song Select command which requires a separate MIDI master device (like a programmable pedal board). According to the datasheet, it takes up to four seconds to switch. This may not be suitable during live performance if you are attempting to do this in a single song.

 

  • Can I perform loop-to-loop queuing (or cueing) with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • With the Infinity Looper, you can switch between the two loops and with the latest firmware update queuing is now possible. While in the SERIES and TRAILS modes (both selected via push buttons), you can select the non-playing loop while the other is playing and it will complete the current loop cycle and then switch to the other loop and begin playing. Also, with the latest update the in-process overdub is no longer lost when switching between loops. Glad to see that one fixed.

 

  • Can I switch back to the previous loop while performing with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, but this only applies to the two loops that you have to work with within a given preset.  Also, with the latest firmware update you no longer lose the in-progess overdub when switching between the two loops.

 

  • With the Pigtronix Infinity Looper, can I record and play different parts of a song (verse, chorus, bridge) all during a live performance while not using my hands (pedals and footswitches only)?
    • You could achieve this partially, by using the two loops in the Infinity Looper, along with undo/redo functionality (only available with an optional momentary remote switch). For this functionality, I would recommend picking up the optional switch that Infinity offers.

 

  • Can I go from recording directly into overdub with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, with the latest firmware update, they have added this functionality. You would need the external momentary switch plugged into the “UNDO” input and then use the UNDO button on the switch to close your loop after the initial recording.

 

  • Can I undo/redo the last overdub to change the song or eliminate a recording error with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • With the Infinity Looper, you are able to undo and redo the last overdub. However, it requires an external momentary remote switch. For this functionality, I would recommend picking up the optional switch that Infinity offers.

 

  • Can I set previous layers to go quieter or fade out while overdubbing new layers with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • This function is called “Loop Aging” on the Infinity Looper.  It is used to gradually or quickly transition a song without stopping or switching your ongoing loop. The amount of “aging” can be set from 0-10 or be continuously controlled by the optional expression pedal. Setting it to 0 provides a “Punch In” REPLACE function when switching. Basically the loop switches over after one cycle.

 

  • Can I adjust the volume or effects of individual overdubs with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • With the Infinity Looper, there are individual volume knobs for both of the loops. Also, you can use an optional expression pedal to control the loop volume.

 

  • Can I record individual overdubs/layers as individual WAV files with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper to then work with in a DAW?
    • With the Infinity Looper, you can connect to your PC or Mac via USB to transfer audio files back and forth. There are multiple file formats that the unit can work with. Pigtronix utilizes SoX.

 

  • Can I use the 1/8” MP3/CD input to play song into the looper and incorporate it into my loop with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • There is not a 1/8” input on the Infinity Looper. However, you can use an 1/8″ to 1/4″ adapter with standard inputs to accomplish this.

 

  • Can I pre-record tracks, edit them in a DAW, load them into Pigtronix Infinity Looper as loops and then trigger them with the footswitch when needed?
    • Yes, you can save and trigger audio files on your Infinity Looper.

 

  • Can I trigger a one-shot playback (a.k.a. single phrase) with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper? In other words, can I set the loop to only play one time when triggered?
    • Using the TRAILS mode, you can trigger the loop to stop once it reaches the end of a single cycle. Basically, you would play the loop and then once you press STOP, it would complete at the end of the loop instead of immediately.

 

  • Can I play multiple loops simultaneously with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper, and turn them on and off? For example, play drums on one track, base-line on the other, and guitar on another and bring them in and out of the song?
    • Yes, you can do this with the two loops that are available to run in parallel or in series.

 

  • Can I play a loop or overdub in reverse with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, reverse functionality was added to the Infinity Looper with the latest version of firmware. It is triggered with the option remote switch. For this functionality, I would recommend picking up the optional switch that Infinity offers.

 

  • Does the Pigtronix Infinity Looper have stereo sound or just mono?
    • The Infinity Looper has stereo and mono functionality.

 

  • Is there anything in the Pigtronix Infinity Looper that reduces the clicking sound that can occur when tapping the footswitch during overdub?
    • Yes, the Infinity Looper has “Click Killer”.

 

  • Is the Pigtronix Infinity Looper a good looper for live performances on stage?
    • Live performance is where the Infinity Looper would shine. It has not been around for very long, so you would likely need to really test it out before trusting it on stage. We have not heard of any issues so far. If you want to use it for video performance then you will need an audio interface to connect the output to the DAW. Due to it’s USB interface and dedicated software, it is also good for capturing new song ideas and jamming at home.

 

  • Are there multiple stop modes in the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, you can fade, stop upon loop completion, or stop exactly when the footswitch is pressed. The two loops can be stopped simultaneously or separately.

 

  • Can I stutter start with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, the 2.0 firmware does include stutter functionality (hold down STOP on power up / reverse becomes stutter), which can also be triggered via MIDI control.

 

  • Can I resample with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper? In other words, can I take a loop and modify it by multiplying it, cutting part of it out, adding a different effect to it, etc?
    • The Infinity Looper has the ability to multiply while in SYNC MULTI mode. For example, you can record a phrase with the first loop and then record a phrase that is 2x, 3x, 4x, or 6x as long on the second loop which will effectively multiply the number of times the first loop plays before the sound repeats itself. This is very useful for setting up drums or baselines that accompany more complicated/dynamic phrases. They have added the ability to set the multiplier to any value between 1 and 127, using the Infinity Application or a MIDI CC.

 

  • Can the Pigtronix Infinity Looper be set to auto-record when I begin playing?
    • You can now automatically go into record when switching from loop 1 to loop 2, or vice versa:
      When a loop is waiting to begin playback, pressing that loop’s footswitch again will cause the loop to enter overdub mode when it begins playback. Video

 

  • With the Pigtronix Infinity Looper, are there any issues with droning (playing the same note, chord, repeated sounds, or tone-clusters continuously) at the boundaries of the loops – such as noticeable change in volume?
    • There is a “Click Killer” enable/disable option. You turn it off to enable droning (in the Loop Aging Menu).

 

  • Does the Pigtronix Infinity Looper have a built in metronome?
    • No the Infinity Looper does not have a metronome.

 

  • Is there any software that comes with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, there is a freeware program that you can load onto your PC or Mac in order to interface (via USB) to the Infinity Looper.

 

  • Is quantize functionality available on the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Other loopers typically have auto-quantize, which can automatically correct your timing errors and set your loops equal to preset timing patterns. The Infinity Looper does not have traditional function of auto-quantize, because it lacks a metronome. However, it does have a mode to sync the two loops so they are exactly the same length and it also can synchronize with MIDI clock source and become quantized to the measure (4/4 time). Infinity has defended this design decision by pointing out that their unit has exceptionally low latency. This allows users to have an increased ability to time their loops, so that auto-quantize is not needed.

 

  • Will the Pigtronix Infinity Looper interface with my DAW (digital audio workstation)/computer through USB?
    • No, the Infinity Looper does not function as an audio interface, it does have a USB port that is used to transfer data back and forth between a PC/Mac. However, that is not real-time audio.

 

  • Will the Pigtronix Infinity Looper interface with my computer through USB to transfer sound files?
    • Yes, the Infinity Looper can transfer files to and from a PC or Mac via USB.

 

  • Can I save and recall loops with an SD card with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • Yes, the Infinity Looper has a built-in SD card to store music and settings (even when the power is off).

 

  • Does the Pigtronix Infinity Looper have effects (FX)?
    • No the Infinity Looper does not have internal effects (FX).

 

  • Can I bypass the effects (FX) with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • This is not applicable for the Infinity Looper.

 

  • Can I turn off or mute the live signal that is fed through the Pigtronix Infinity Looper (for use in parallel effects loops of an amp or in Aux Send/Return of a mixer)?
    • Yes, the Infinity Looper has a mono output called Aux Out which does not contain the live signal, but contains all of the looping audio.

 

  • Can I save presets for effects with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • No, there are no effects built in to the Infinity Looper.

 

  • Does the Pigtronix Infinity Looper have an XLR mic input? Does it have phantom power for a condenser microphone?
    • No the Infinity Looper does not have an XLR mic input.

 

  • Does the Pigtronix Infinity Looper function as a mixer with multiple inputs?
    • Yes, there is an option to split the stereo input and output pair into two separate mono channels that are assigned to the two separate loops. Therefore, you could have one instrument in one and other in the other and they would be independent, but synchronized.

 

  • Can I re-assign footswitch functionality with the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • The Infinity Looper has three footswitches. One is STOP/ERASE, and the other two control each of the two loops (PLAY/REC/DUB).

 

  • Does the Pigtronix Infinity Looper have a headphone jack for playback and monitoring?
    • There is a dedicated AUX OUT, but it does not have the live signal – only the looping audio.

 

  • Can the Pigtronix Infinity Looper be connected to an external MIDI device?
    • The Infinity Looper does have a MIDI port, and it is completely MIDI mappable.  Any function can be controlled by MIDI. (not just rec/play, stop/start, song select). Here is an example video of using a Soft Step MIDI controller.  You can also control the pedal using a smart phone, tablet, laptop etc. You can slave it to a BeatBuddy (video).  Or get tempo from a MIDI clock source (drum machine, DAW), or as shown here, an Echolution 2 delay.

 

  • Does Pigtronix release firmware updates for the Infinity Looper?
    • Yes they do. They are typically announced on their blog. Also, we will keep you posted on loopermusic.com.

 

 

  • Is there an optional expressional pedal that I can add to the Pigtronix Infinity Looper to control effects(FX)?
    • Yes, any TRS expression pedal can be used, and you can use it to control Loop Aging, loop volume (both loops) or Varispeed. Video

 

  • What is the sampling rate and bit depth of the A/D/A conversion?
    • For the Infinity Looper, the sample rate is 48 kHz; 24-bit.

 

  • Can the Pigtronix Infinity Looper be battery powered?
    • No there are no battery options for the Pigtronix Infinity Looper.
  • What size is the Pigtronix Infinity Looper?
    • The Infinity Looper footprint is 7.4” x 4.6” x 1.5”.

 

  • Why is using a Pigtronix Infinity Looper better than just using computer software? Or why should I use a stompbox looper instead of something that is software based?
    • Ease of use – when you have a looper pedal setup, you just sit down and play (just like picking up an instrument). This makes spontaneous fifteen minute jam sessions happen all the time.
    • Control and reliability – especially during a live performance. Has your PC ever frozen or started running slow all of a sudden? There are a lot of processes that can occur in a computer that are unrelated to your music, and you may not have control over all of them.
    • Ability to interface hands-free with a dedicated stompbox/pedal/footswitch
    • The software usually has a much steeper learning curve. Nothing puts me out of the music-playing mood faster than trying to figure out how to work with the recording software and getting stuck on something.
    • If you managed to setup a reliable, hands-free computer based system then it’s still difficult to go on stage and have the performance feel “live”. People are used to seeing pedals on stage, but once you bring out your laptop then it starts feeling like a DJ performance. Nothing wrong with that, for some.
    • Latency: PC and Mac based looper set-ups cannot match the latency of the loop pedals. This results in more timing misalignment between layers and can degrade the quality of the performance. Latency describes the delays that occur at each stage as the sound travels – therefore, if there is delay between when you make a sound and when it’s recorded, as well as a delay between when the playback is generated and when you actually hear it, then you get the timing issues.
    • Analog pass through: several of the loop pedals have true analog pass through, so that you can reduce A/D and D/A delays in your signal path.

 

  • Why is using a Pigtronix Infinity Looper better than just using an iPhone or iPad application?
    • There is very limited functionality with the iOS based loopers compared to the Pigtronix Infinity Looper. However, these apps are quickly improving. With added hardware (microphone, Bluetooth control pedal, etc.), these setups may start to look attractive. Please see our iOS app setup information.
    • With regards to live performances, bringing an iPad or iPhone on stage may feel more like a DJ performance, but it’s not going as far as bringing a laptop. Also, the OS may be more predictable and stable compared to an entire computer or workstation. Therefore, we think that iOS based loopers will be more stage-friendly than laptops, but not as stage-friendly as pedals/stompboxes in the foreseeable future.

 

  • What company makes the Pigtronix Infinity Looper and where are they located?
    • Absara Audio LLC (aka Pigtronix) is headquartered in Jefferson Station, NY. Public information is very limited, but our impression is that this is an up and coming company of ambitious people in this market space.

 

  • How is the support from Pigtronix on any issues that arise with the unit?
    • There is an excellent interactive online manual and online individual instruction videos for several key uses. To my knowledge, Pigtronix is the only company to put a series of such videos out there. The company has design, manufacturing and everything else all under one roof in New York. Therefore, the support is strong and very timely. You will definitely be dealing with an expert on the product, and they are eager to make their customers happy.
  • How long has the Pigtronix Infinity Looper been in production?
    • According to an online forum, the initial launch was November 2012.

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